Interesting, I look around at couples and I see loads of bad signs in their interactions. I have learned to be aware of subtle stuff that many people don't see.

I do also see the good interactions too. One day we will have those again.bu
You sound like you have given up. This is not a judgement:, just a friendly observation.

During your last R talk, your W revealed: of the reasons she wants
nothing to do with you.You have also had recent x about your own behavior etc. With your IC you have also discovered issues to work on. Howk are you getting on working on all of that. Regardless of what happens with W you need to work on eliminating these.

I would also caution you on about what you accept.Yes accept that you have no R and W wants nothing to do with you. This is true, at this present moment.That can change.If you believe it cannot you could create a self fulfilling prophesy.

The happier you are, the better are your chances of saving your M. Don'tputv your life on hold waiting for W to decide to come back to you. The classes etc you are doing are great, but what are you doing to have fun?
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R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together