Hey rednail,

I know how you feel about taking the kids places on your own. I went through that very feeling. I still do to some degree. My kids are just a little older then yours.

The way it worked for me is I would visit the places on my own first to get a feel for the place, then I would take the kids, have in my mind that if things go bad with them I can leave at any time. I had no expectations of how long we would be there. If kids listened then it would be longer. if not I would leave right then, right there. I have left groceries stores and left the cart in the isle because the kids were not behaving.

I would stay away from crowded places at first, go to open parks and outside playgrounds. Its easier to keep an eye on them and it builds up a expectation for the kids, If they do well you tell them that and then let them know that if they can behave well like that, you can take them to more places like it.

keep up the good work, keep posting.


Me late 30's
W mid 30's
T 15, M 10
S4, S7
ILYBNILWY June 2015
In house S July 2015
W rings off Oct 2015
My ring off Feb 2015
Separate houses June 2016