No Shock tactics here. I couldn't afford to move out on my own anyway. But what did get his notice was several years of just not caring about the relationship at all and treating him like he was treating me. ie; he treated me like a roommate, so I did the same back to him. Housework, laundry, yard work was never an issue with us, he does his fair share, always has. I would take care of my responsibilities here then plan things with friends without him. Stopped even asking him to go anywhere with me. He moved into a different room in the house, so after a couple of years, I finally stopped caring and started treating him like he was my roommate. He panicked and now wants to make things better between us, and things are a little better in that he now does go do things with me a little more, gives me hugs sometimes and makes sure he kisses me hello, bye and goodnight, but we are still in different beds. So, even though the sex issue is no better, life in general is more pleasant. I still don't really care. Its sad that after 21 yrs of M I could care less. But it seems that he sensed that I had given up and it scared him. Who knows, maybe these baby steps will lead to other bigger steps. We will see.