Beginning of the End

[Thornton]

Ok good interactions, Tim.

You can build on this.

[G8r]

Sounds like your trip went well. Even if sounds like you didn't need the validation on this trip, it likely gave you a sense of confidence and your W is likely to sense it. It looks like you had some decent interactions and hopefully you will be able to build on it. Keep it up!!!!

[TimR]

Thanks G8r and Thornton, I think I did ok. I was thinking of trying to make small talk but figured that would be too much like pursuing, so I didn't try.

I could not help feeling it was familiar. I can't tell you how good she smelled and how much I wanted to touch. Just to hold her hand or place my hand on her leg. In dropping her off I so longed for a hug but was not offered nor did I attempt.

On our little trip, I did some small thinks. Bought her a bottle of water while we were there. I got her coffee in the morning and on the way home when I stopped for a drink, I offered to get her something and she did want another coffee. I paid for her entrance fee. I thought maybe I shouldn't, I mean we are not together right now. If my boss fired me I wouldn't show up to work for free. But figured it to be a nice small gesture. Especially, with the way Friday went for us.

However, now I feel it hard to get her out of my head!!

[Thornton]

These WAW's are sure pretty, Tim.

You did great today. Keep building on every interaction you have with her.

[JujuB]

I think it good that you paid for entrance fees. Nothing more unattractive in women's eyes then someone that won't pay for at least the small stuff. (I know how unfair it is though)

I agree to keep building on your interactions. You did great at remaining friendly and not pursuing.

[broke]

Tim,

I think that, overall, it went well. Sounds exactly how my lunch went with my H - was uneventful but I was secretly hoping for more. IMHO, after all the crazy texts from her, I think it was definitely a positive and she could see that you moved forward from the texts, were polite (drinks and entrance fee) and you didn't get angry or discuss the R or M. Congrats to you and S13, too!

[1313]

Tim, sounds like things went better than you had a right to hope. I won't jinx it by saying anything else.

You guys should be delighted you've got any contact with your W or H at all, and the gift of time. With the DR as your handbook you've got what you need to make things work if it's remotely possible.

And broke, just because things are uneventful - don't take that as a negative. "Eventful" can be a bad thing too, right? If you asked me (and I'm the wrong person to ask) anything that's not a negative is a positive.

I wish I could figure out a way to get any sort of communication open - that's one advantage with kids, even if it's forced. Since the W won't even let me see the dog I don't even have that.

In fact the last time I handed off the dog for her to take for a walk (a 45 day walk) she hallucinated me saying something awful to her as I opened the door. When they hate, they hate.

Anyway, it's great to hear a few positives here even though ya'll might think there's nothing to it.

[TimR]

1313 since you are in small area and know most of the same people you need to communicate that way. Like I said always be at your best outside the house. Make sure not to shy way from mutual "friends" but let them see how you are doing. You know it will get back to her and you gotta use what you got. Make it known to her that you are doing well.

[Thornton]

I agree with Tim.

You do have opportunities to DB via other people.

Make sure you look sharp when you are out in the community, not only will it put a little pep in your step but it may get back to W.

You want her to doubt herself. The only way to do that is for you to be awesome (or doing an awesome job of pretending to feel awesome). She won't want to come back to someone sad and depressed.

Show her what she's about to throw away.

[Ojap]

Wow, Tim. Sounds like an eventful weekend for you. I'm SO glad that things stayed on the up and up for you during your S's trip. Not only is that great for you, it is great for your S! And congrats to him! That is really awesome.

Keep at it, man. I too may have 'failed' by doing stuff like 'buying coffee, entrance fees', etc. But honestly....I know they can cake eat...but it helps me to know that I will be a gentleman. Period.

Of course...you were a gentlemen b/c she was handling herself appropriately as well. Two way street. Don't second guess yourself. Be proud of the trip man!!!