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It's lonely at first but then you slowly adjust. It'll also give you both the space to let things cool off.

You are going to need to find ways to stay busy though. I didn't do so well here and my obsessing nearly killed me. I still struggle with it.

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Try???

Sorry if this seems hard lined...when i hear that, i get a sense that the person saying try is just setting themselves up for crash and burn.

This is where goals and baby steps come in to play. Start your goals for being a better man small and work your way up from there. You are never going to get to twhere you want to go without a plan. It may not be completely flushed out to start, but certainly setting up initial waypoint and course of action is a great place to start.

It goes back to what it is you want to do. Set goals for how many times you are going to go to the gym. How many minutes you are going to spend reading. Goals for what chores are going to be completed when. Dowsnt matter right now...just stsrt moving for what you want. Sometimes when we start it is so overwhelming. I understand that, i really do.

You want to know my first goal...i was going to make sure my pajamas were folded up and put back everyday before i took my shower. Stupid as it sounds, it was a manageable goal that is now part of my morning routine Every single day. It built from that small manageable thing to start my day off on the right foot.

It was a way to set myself up for victory over something thst i used to be bugged by, leaving clothes on the floor.

I know you can do this...not just try but DO it, ok???


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You can do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Thanks buddy. I can and will. I have a retro goal that I did over the weekend. I cut down our dead peach tree and limbed, and cut into log sections and burned all limbs. Felt so good when finished. Such a sense of accomplishment.

I think that sometimes when I think of GAL i picture, skydiving, something exotic. I guess it really doesnt have to be, just make it goal oriented. Am i on the right track?


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Yes, and sort of.

Part of GAL is keeping busy and creating a sense of accomplishment through goals. this helps with the self respect.

the other part is to create a sense of fun and enjoyment with your life. for years we have been living for our families. call it duty or honor or whateverthephuck you want, but we've been at it for so long, we have lost a sense of who we are, who we were when we were younger and care free.

that needs to change. that sense of adventure, doing fun stuff (concerts, ball games, sports, volunteering, etc. - sure skydiving if that is what you want...or how about fishing, kayaking, archery, beer tasting events...see where i'm going with this) is what is missing from your life for what I would guess is a long time.

Enjoy life, grab it by the nads and really start living...that is the second part of GAL. You can make that part goal oriented, I will go see 6 concerts this year (yes that is one of my GAL goals this year - have one down, two more in march so I am going to crush that goal and guess what, see a whole bunch of shows that I would have passed on in the past)

Hope i'm not coming off as abrupt, I am busy at work...but didn't want to leave you hanging till tomorrow.


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No you are not abrupt Zephyr. I appreciate your candor. You're so right. We were conditioned growing up that we were to take care of our families, protect their well-being and provide for their good. Contrary to how a lot of WW or WAW want to portray us, we sacrificed our sense of self for the good of the family. Sure we may be thick in the head when it comes emotional needs and mind reading 101 but it is not intentional. I felt low today but forced myself to the gym and killed it. I would have just decided to go home instead of pushing on.

Who have you seen concert wise and who do you have on the list?


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Saw darius rucker and david nail in november and then just went to see travis tritt just 2 weeks ago...really awesome show..all accoustic, no band.

I have tickets for the chieftains in a week and the high kings a few days after that.

I just got invitation for jimmy buffet in june (as a group with aome of the neighborhood parents), and i am going ro look for some tickets for bryan addams for me and the boys this summer.

We've also gone out to see some live music with that same group of parent over last couple of months and just had a good time with dancing and a few beverages and socializing

That leads me to another goal for me that i think can almost be unversally applied to gallers everywhere...dont turn down invitations if you dont already have plans. Even if the plan may be less thsn optimal for you, go and have a good time, meat some people and get out...you never know.


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Saw Travis Tritt back in his heyday in St. Louis. I was raised in Illinois. Missouri bro now though.

Any acoustic show is a good one IMO. Gotta ask. Cards or cubs? Hawks or Blues?


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Cubs for sure.
Hawks rule around here...who are these blues you speak of wink

We are suburban chicago btw.


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Blues are NHL hockey known for their early exits in the playoffs. haha. Don't tell anyone but Toews is my fave. shhh.


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