I know you say they need some sort of loss or something to hit them Sandi, and I know there are many success stories out there, but man, is it ever hard to see how that may happen...
Well, you may not ever know (unless she tells you) exactly what it is that hits her the hardest. It may be something that doesn't have anything directly to do with you. It could be an accumulation of things (loses). That's why we can't put a time clock on these matters. Everyone is an individual. I just know that as long as they get the best of both worlds, or they get their way about everything....they may not have to deal what they see as lost.
It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!