Spirit/mirage, you have such an interesting story, where you have gone thru MLC, and then your Ex has also gone thru MLC.

Thank you for your responses. I keep viewing my W as someone in control of what she is doing. Your story has helped me to better understand she may still be in the throes of confusion and even 'self-loathing'.

If you will permit me, I have a few more questions for you:

- why did you change your sign-on from 'Spirit' to 'mirage'? it seems there is a story here;

- Have you talked to your ExW after the divorce? It seems that your similar journeys going thru MLC gives you something that may be helpful for each other;

- Was there some event that triggered your entry into MLC? - for my W, it was the foreclosure of our home that we lived in for over 20 years;

- You've mentioned meditation as something that helped you out of MLC. Were there any people or conversations that were also helpful to you?

- How are your children doing?

Thanks again for anything that you provide to help us in the midst of the MLC battle.


Me-54 yrs; W: 50 yrs
4 kids- D: 22,20,19; S:15
"Trial" Divorce: 04/14 - 6/14
Separated: 06/2013- divorced 08/2016

“The strongest of all warriors are these two — Time and Patience.” War and Peace