W mentioned mostly how my past of depression has made her a carer and that she didn't feel intimacy.Not something I haven't heard before but reasoning for a lasting marriage is a surprise. I felt humiliated. Ongoing complaint was me being selfish and not focusing on family. For my defenses (I didn't talk about it) I was trying to increase the income and I was pulled out of family mostly by saying you can't do it, criticism. As in sandi2's rule, would n't these be not fully true. I listened carefully to all of it.

I talked about the low intimacy of the relationship and how I had been critisiced. I said that the affair had also taken the energy away. I mentioned about despite my struggles to communicate, I was getting no response.

In a sense I had a relaxed time (at least talked about it). Though my W has a cold sore. That sore was one of the signs of stress which I was able to stop it from going for a year. She suddenly brought it out.

Please any comments. I will continue to give space but should I talk about the relationship and ask what she would like me to change? I had asked and changed but not enough for intimacy.


Me: 43, W: 43
M: 16, T: 18
D - 7, D - 7
ILUB: 26 August 2014
Still living together