Vise the kids are wonderful. I wonder what effect they have on W sometimes.

I campout of the weekend happy But not overly cheerful to the point where i thought things would turn around.

I must say the dynamic is different but i really did not get a feeling from W that she was interested in anything or not.

therefore I will just keep plugging along doing my thing.

Planning on a trip for myself the next weekend without the kids. don't know where yet, but looking. I am also looking into taking some shooting lessons. I bought a gun years ago but never did anything. I want to take tactical lessons.

Then when the weather turns I will take up fishing as I know kids and I can enjoy this.



Last thing i want to get out is something I posted over on Vises thread about other women. I am treading very carefully at the moment. I have a few that contact me often and I have to keep things to a point of friends at the moment. The interactions are nice and everything but i think i definitely gave the wrong impression early on and let myself get carried away with what they may think. the following days I would be not in much contact as i realized that is not what i want and i want to wait this out until I don't even consider want ing W anymore.

not proud that I even ran the risk of I guess you could call EA, nit even that though, but it just felt so wrong.


M 37
W 34

T 12
M 8
D 7
S 4

Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
W moved out 11/1/15