To everyone else- If Julie's H were here we'd work with him. Yes, there are things he could do differently. No, he is not on top of his game. But the language y'all are talking is the language of war.

Labeling him as controlling.
Blaming him for the situation being escalated.
Getting worked up about the possibility that he is in an affair.

Are you all different usernames for Julie? This is like a lynch mob. Guys, Julie has a problem with not hearing her H and burying her wounds and allowing that to keep her very angry. Your comments being supportive and empathetic are not helping her save her marriage if you're reassuring her she is right and H is a jerk.

JellyB posted something that has been drowned out. Here's what she said again:

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If you are both looking towards reconciliation, communication and learning to actually hear each other and connection is the starting place. And then figure out if moving forward is something you want. But that is just my knowledge and experience.

Look I think this is all up for grabs and the fact it's still on table is brilliant. One of you just now needs to man up for the sake of your marriage and kids and get the counselling happening.


Sorry guys, I guess I'm starting to raise my voice. Time for Zues to go back to work on Zues. If what I've said still doesn't get through I'll remind myself this isn't my circus.


Me:38 XW:38
T:11 years M:8 years
Kids: S14, D11, D7
BD/Move out day: 6/17/14, D final Dec 15