Originally Posted By: NYGal
Rain, can you set a no phone boundary when you are together? It might be a start....
LOL like I know anything. Now I will go to my thread and see how bad I messed up today... So confusing.


I will answer your question then we need to analyze your W...you know I love doing that. smile

NYgal. I tried to tell him about leaving his phone in his car once before. It was a disaster. He refused and then I got advice here (If I remember correctly from Pink and Zues) not to pressure him about his stupid phone. To him it's seen as me trying to control him. Now to your conversation with W...

You may be upset with everyones advice but I think theyre right. Just let me explain why. When XF wanted us to be together again but only if I was okay with no transparency and the possibility of more As I (and all of You) were flabbergasted. I said no and you and everyone else advised me to stay strong and not give in to that kind of relationship simply because I miss him and miss our family.

When I read that W was asking you to hide your conversation and also making plans with you that would have to be kept a secret I felt the same way you did when XF wanted to give me less than. No, no, no! We are NOT plan B.

When people say be the OW to the ow, they don't mean it literally. It's not to start an A and be kept hidden and a secret. They mean that by GALing and moving on (not dating but not waiting) that we can possibly become to our SO what ow was before. The woman that they can't get off their mind, the one they think of constantly. The one that ow must now live up to (which they CAN'T because we are so unbelievably great!). The ones that now make them reconsider if they've made a horrible mistake.

So just like XFs offer was just not enough, neither is Ws. It just isn't sweetie.

Lastly when mines PA ended by his choice btw...we stayed together. I shouldn't have. It's also true that when you R too quickly it. Doesnt. Work. That blasted ow is still fresh in their minds and they will cycle. Mine cycled by starting an EA. Some cycle by simply going back to R/M and continuing to pursue ow on the side again. It's not fun and It's not pretty.

So NYG, the same way you all want better for me than to accept XFs bs offer, we want the best for you. That's for W to be completely done with ow. Completely. And for you two to do the work and move forward from a better and stronger place so as to build a brand new M.

(((((NYGal)))))

You got this. Before you were sad and reeling thinking W forgot about you. But clearly she hasn't. smile and trust me ow, the lot of them, got our S through secrecy and deception. They are so much more intune when they feel something is "off". Ow in our life told me she always knew when XF missed me or was texting me. He was colder to her. He would even tell her..since she was always SO understanding. LOL. He would tell her, I don't know what I would do if Rain moves away because of what I'm doing.

She would stay calm and tell him that it would be okay. Then they could really be together and if Rain won't let US see the kids WE can take her to court. At least one time he told her to mind her business. And that there was no WE because they are Rain and my kids. And I just dont want her to move away from me. So, they fought that night..her understanding facade went out the window.

This was all told to me by ow btw, you all know I believe nothibg XF says. My poiny of the above is that the APs can sense when they're number 1 spot is in jeopardy. They start to become us and get jealous and fight. Ahhh karma.

Also, though that happened, guess what? He was still an ass to me and he still kept that A going. So your best bet is to stay away from the A and the crazy.

Thinking of you and hoping for the best. You deserve it.