For me it is not about future expectations but moreso what is acceptable/normal in a M. Yes I have limited expectations as long as we live as a married couple.

I honestly believe there is nothing going on between them EXCEPT she can talk to him about personal stuff and not me. I am certain he only views her as a friend. What she thinks deep down I suspect is a deeper emotional link than normal friends.AAfter it is mindreading which I try to avoid.

For me that part of things was less important than having an open conversation about us, because it is US that is the real issue. I managed this chat without fear, anxiety, anger, resentment or blame. And without expectations.

It showed me that it is possible to communicate with her. But I imagine that it will take a long time for her to want more with me. Are there clues in our conversation about the best path ahead. Or other insights that someone else can see


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together