Sotto - thanks for your time and reading my thread

I initiated a little talk this morning. Basically said what Zeus wrote about validation. I said I understood she didn't love me and hadn't for some time, and had tried to love me. We have different views on commitment to M and I will not stand in her way if she wants a D.

I also said I had looked at renting a house, but there are not many on the market, and it would cost about £1000 a month. ( my standards will be high for any house, location, etc) Rents and bills are expensive.

She didn't say a lot but asked if I wanted to talk about the kids. I said I wanted 50% custody. She said it's not called custody anymore and I said whatever, I want 50% days and nights.

She said we should leave it as I was still angry. I wasn't angry, just a bit cold and unsmiling.

Yesterday I said I wanted to go to Family camp - which is a scouting weekend were families are invited. We went last year and had fun - in fact it was the last time we had sex - in the tent!

I said I was going whether she went or not - she said we could talk about it nearer the time.

Today she said we could go and do things together at Family camp. I said we wouldn't be a family so no way. She then cut the conversation and said I was too angry again.

I guess I came across as angry and unyielding - I said this would be the hardest thing the boys would go through. She said they will cope if we manage the situation in the right manner.

I would prefer her not to go


Me49 W45
T15 M13
S11 S8
BD 11/15/11 & 3/27/12
Moved out 4/9/12 Moved back 4/23/12
W working on US 5/20/12 Now Piecing!
May-Oct14 drifting
Dec 14 W agrees to more QT
BD Oct15 ILYBINILWY
W filed 1/25/16