Thanks so much for responding so quickly-i didnt tell him anything like that. I feel so boneless about it- now that is a 180! not a good one though he offered to give me the phone but i said no how should i say it?? i have to do this or go crazy and i feel like the timing is bad and i have brought it up 3 times over the last 2 weeks. Please give me your ideas- I could use some sentence ideas at this point Emily- you and i are very similar-in our sitch- it is so hard to explain what kind of thing we have been through and i dont think H even understands yet. So in maybe a few more months i hope we communicate better too. Retrovaille in may for us- I and consider counseling again. thanks for the support so much shay