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She wants the conversation, the texts from me, the phone calls, since she's not talking to OM, but really, she just keeps trying me on for size.


And, she can have those things from you.......if she will do her part and write the letter, call the lawyer, and agree to transparency. Otherwise, she will crumble to the pull of the A. She has not reached that point of being willing to do whatever is necessary to save the M. I think it is more YOU that is pushing her, trying to get her there.......and she's digging in her heels.

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She said yes on Sunday, and she meant it. Was it a moment of weakness for her? I consider it a moment out of the fog.


Maybe, or she was just trying to get you off her back about it. She either agrees or she doesn't. You can't hammer her till she gives in about it, b/c I doubt it would be authentic.

Why another R talk? What will it accomplish? Nothing is going to work as long as she's holding on to the OM.

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I have told her 3 times this week that in order for US to reconcile, these things have to happen. She greets those requests with disrespect, including eye rolls, huffing, and trying to end the conversations with 'bye trumpet' or 'we're done talking'. 'You're treating me like a 2 year old!'.


Not a good sign.

Here is how I see this, and it's just my opinion. I don't think it is a matter of patience that is needed here. As usual, the WW is daring the H to see if he will bend over and let her ram this up his a$$. The more R talks, the more pressure he applies, the more "reminders" he gives..........the more she realizes she has him by the b@lls and he won't do anything.

It boils down to this..............either sh't or get off the pot. Just sitting there is not accomplishing anything.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!