My D17 was just in my livingroom with her 2 male friends, also 17. My S12 was talking to them, when he was supposed to be doing his homework.
We had a conversation, that I am sure contains multiple points that could offend someone. But wait until you hear why all 3 17year olds were offended.
Me: "S12 if you do not stop talking and get your homework done, I am literally going to kill you. Wait, instead, go find me a belt, i will just beat you instead."
S12: "Mom, i'm doing it now,chill out. You need a man."
OK, So me threatening to kill him and beat him did not even raise an eyebrow for the 17's. Him telling me to chill and saying I need a man, still no problem in their world.
It was the word "man" that completely upset all three of them. Now-a-days you have to say "partner" It is sexist to assume I want a male partner and not a female partner.
I am all for gay rights and I have many many gay friends whom I love to death. But has it really become politically incorrect to say man and woman? I do not want to be insensitive, so I am truly asking if me saying something like "God I need a man" am I being rude?
Me: 42 H: 45 M: 18 yrs T: 20 yrs D: 17 D: 15 S: 12 I kicked him out 8/21/15 I will DB until March 21st 2017, that is it!
I tell you what Mona, I don't need a partner right now but I'd chew through a steel cable for some time with a good woman. I don't care what your 17's want to call it, I'm old fashion and let labels be labels.
Stay classic. Keep your desire for a man. For a good man. For a guy that can chop wood with a real ax, that will sweep you off your feet, make passionate love to you, and then cook you a breakfast with more meat products than vegetables.
Nothing makes me happier than your insistence on calling your desire as it is.
(yea, a steel cable)
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M 39 W 36 T5 M3 BD - 1/15 Separated - Same Day Served 9/15 D finalized 6/17
OMG Mona, I am having a huge ongoing conversation with my daughter about this very topic this week! She told me to "watch my pronouns" because not everyone who looks like a boy wants to be identified as a "he" or who looks like a girl wants to be identified as a "she". So apparently are supposed to call everyone a "they". THEN she went on to tell me about gender fluidity (you can identify as a girl one day and a boy the next), pansexual which means you like all sexes - so I said that is bi and she said- no, bi means you like 2 genders but there are more than two genders. She said there are posters all over school that say "watch your pronouns" and a whole lot more. She gave me quite an education and she is 14! I am ready to home school her except that she has too much attitude for me.
I honestly don't care what someone's gender identity or sexuality is, but this is a little much for 14 year olds!
Oh! And there is a word for us- women who like men and men who like women. It is cys (I think, not sure of the spelling, maybe sys) and it is used as a derogatory term as in "stupid narrow minded cys-sexuals") Then there are demi-boys and demi-girls and I don't even know what that is, and polyamorous groups in high school? Which I can only guess is group sex/group dating? And you can be bi-romantic and straight, or bi-romantic and bi-sexual, or bi-sensual, or a whole list of other things.
It blows me away that this is what 14 year olds are discussing! Ask her about math or history and she knows nothing. Honestly, I really don't care what anybody does with their own life, and if you want me to call you he, she or they I respect that, but this is a lot for 14 year olds. Especially when it seems like there is a stigma for being a heterosexual identifying as the gender you were born.
Anyway, she keeps telling me to watch my pronouns, and I say "he is my son, I know he is a he" and she says "well don't assume, maybe tomorrow they will change their mind and your assumption is hurtful." My poor son is sitting there saying "NO I won't change my mind, I am a boy!" And my D is saying "for now."
Sorry for the rant. I really do respect people's choices but too much info for kids who haven't even started dating yet.
Mona, "Cheers" comes to mind from your description! I am in a dinner group and they are pretty tame, but there are 11 of us and its a pretty mixed group of mostly older people but we have fun. We meet weekly and the host is moving but we just decided on a new meeting place so I will continue that. It feels like a "family." And we drink too! I don't want to leave my kids home alone more than one-two nights a week. My youngest is just 9 and he gets lonely if the older ones don't make an effort to include him which is hit or miss.
