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mutatio #2637344 01/02/16 04:29 AM
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I learned something else about myself through today's pain. I am afraid to detach from my wife because I am afraid that if I do, I will no longer love her. Does that mean anything?



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Man, I have the same feeling sometimes. I get to the point where I think if I let go it will be more like cutting the chord.


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I learned something else about myself through today's pain. I am afraid to detach from my wife because I am afraid that if I do, I will no longer love her. Does that mean anything?


Yep, I have the same feeling. For me, I think theres some co-dependency feelings mixed in also. I fear Ill detach so much Ill realize I don't want her in my life after whats happened this last year. Then if she does want the M to work out ill be the WAS. So I'm protecting her from her own future BD when I tell her ILYBNINLWY. All crazy talk though.....I think.


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I learned something else about myself through today's pain. I am afraid to detach from my wife because I am afraid that if I do, I will no longer love her. Does that mean anything?


I can relate all too well Mutatio as I had very similar feelings in the beginning. Couple that with my W telling me, "I can tell that you don't want to reconcile because you're detaching." What a combo.

Here is what I can tell you today, it might be similar to you sir and it might not. I LOVE my W. Deeply, and dearly. I am also considerably detached from her. So much so that if she told me she wanted to reconcile this evening I would tell her I have a year of travel that will not be altered first. That's truth.

What I had the hardest time detaching from was not my W, nor my love for her. It was the need to be with her, the attachment to the idea of our M, the idea of being better than I am today because I was M'ed and that had positive social stigma.

In my case, none of the attachment was healthy. It was codependent. Now I still love her, and am somewhat still in love with her, but I also know that I can love someone that doesn't love me back, and love someone that isn't right for me necessarily. Those two factors don't change whether I love her, just whether it's right for me to be M'ed to her. Or M'ed to her right now.

Detachment breeds a new quality to the love you have for your W. A new flavor if you will. In my case it was a purer form of it, a cleaner form of it, and form truly does have a healthier feel to it, although it's hard to articulate.

I think Maximus said it something like "we love each other enough to give our lives for each other, but right now we can't share our lives together." That's not perfect, but it's ball park.

Your love for your W has nothing to do with your attachment to her, or hers to you. It's one of the roads of faith you'll have to walk down in this process Mu, but when you do I believe you'll understand it. The grass isn't greener over here, but standing on it and looking back at my W it makes me appreciate her in a way that I never did when I was M'ed to her. A way that on the vast vast majority of days lets me say with honesty," I'll miss you but I'd rather you be happy over there, than over here and unhappy."

It has nothing to do with her my friend, and everything to do with you.

Peace,

PP


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Man, I have the same feeling sometimes. I get to the point where I think if I let go it will be more like cutting the chord.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEYWeXQA9s

Like this? ^^^

But guess what? He survived!!


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I learned something else about myself through today's pain. I am afraid to detach from my wife because I am afraid that if I do, I will no longer love her. Does that mean anything?


I can relate all too well Mutatio as I had very similar feelings in the beginning. Couple that with my W telling me, "I can tell that you don't want to reconcile because you're detaching." What a combo.

Here is what I can tell you today, it might be similar to you sir and it might not. I LOVE my W. Deeply, and dearly. I am also considerably detached from her. So much so that if she told me she wanted to reconcile this evening I would tell her I have a year of travel that will not be altered first. That's truth.

What I had the hardest time detaching from was not my W, nor my love for her. It was the need to be with her, the attachment to the idea of our M, the idea of being better than I am today because I was M'ed and that had positive social stigma.

In my case, none of the attachment was healthy. It was codependent. Now I still love her, and am somewhat still in love with her, but I also know that I can love someone that doesn't love me back, and love someone that isn't right for me necessarily. Those two factors don't change whether I love her, just whether it's right for me to be M'ed to her. Or M'ed to her right now.

Detachment breeds a new quality to the love you have for your W. A new flavor if you will. In my case it was a purer form of it, a cleaner form of it, and form truly does have a healthier feel to it, although it's hard to articulate.

I think Maximus said it something like "we love each other enough to give our lives for each other, but right now we can't share our lives together." That's not perfect, but it's ball park.

Your love for your W has nothing to do with your attachment to her, or hers to you. It's one of the roads of faith you'll have to walk down in this process Mu, but when you do I believe you'll understand it. The grass isn't greener over here, but standing on it and looking back at my W it makes me appreciate her in a way that I never did when I was M'ed to her. A way that on the vast vast majority of days lets me say with honesty," I'll miss you but I'd rather you be happy over there, than over here and unhappy."

It has nothing to do with her my friend, and everything to do with you.

Peace,

PP


Beautiful post PP, grabbed my heart and a few tears shed. We will think about you in the same way while you are away on your travels. ," I'll miss you but I'd rather you be happy over there, than over here and unhappy."

lots of love PP

JellyBxxx

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PP, your words are settling in my heart.This is the path, this is the way out, I see it. Thank you dear friend, very much



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I am going to hike at a Gorge/wildlife area my dear friend Fo used to hike. Fo think of me between 1 to 2 pm. Try to see me with your minds eye. I'm stepping into the future



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Mu, I will be on a long walk with a friend of mine at that same time, so I will think of you!
I hope you like the hike. Its even better in the summer because it is always cooler there than the surrounding areas and you can jump in to cool off. Not advisable in January though. Watch out for bears!

If you drive up 513 wave to my sister in the house where you turn by the train station! But hold your breath because they have strep!


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Fo, What a great hike. I walked it end to end, along the water the whole way. Such a peaceful moment. Thank you Fo, I loved it. Next time I will bring my dog with me. How was you walk?



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