Hey Fogg,

It was a lot of pain and frustration, I could see my W coming back, she agreed to put both our names on the Christmas gift to her family, She has asked that we go out for new years as a family. Then to see her go back and do something that was the turning point to S. It was hard, but I have to look at this like I looked at it a couple moths ago, she is confiding with a gay guy at least that buys me time as normally it cant turn into a PA. Not saying its not possible but highly unlikely, so I continue DBing.

The looking for validation from other people is something that confused me. I am vulnerable and was surprised to see how any attention from women put me in overdrive mentally. I need to keep my distance.

The loving myself first comment is something I haven't thought about. I need to explore that more.

I have gone to two movies by myself. And I have looked into mens groups, there doesn't seem to be a lot of them around. I have a hobby but it hinges on renovating the garage, and its hard to do that when where I am living is not stable right now without a commitment from W to work on the MR.


Me late 30's
W mid 30's
T 15, M 10
S4, S7
ILYBNILWY June 2015
In house S July 2015
W rings off Oct 2015
My ring off Feb 2015
Separate houses June 2016