NateG79,

Fogg is telling you to not force the issue. What does another day do in the big picture? Not much, most likely.

I'm impatient, just like you. Want to see change NOW. I told my wife I would not live in an open relationship. I never wanted to D, but the wife has talked about it in the past, so she's used that as a way to get a reaction out of me.

It sounds like your W wants at least a relationship, and isn't into spewing hatred at you. I'd take that to the bank. Once my wife started wanting to actually be in the same room as me, I wanted to lay it all on the table. She just wasn't ready, and won't be for a while. Just make the deposit into her bank, and then flip the switch back to you. You need to have some concrete under your feet when you make your case, not quicksand. You need enough intestinal fortitude to stand up to her attacks on you when you present your case.

Last edited by trumpet; 12/21/15 07:40 PM.

M46, EXWW46
M15 T17
D20, S19, D13
M - Addiction since 1998
W EA/PA #1 2013/2014
W EA #2 June 2015...
BD 1 Big D talk 9/15
BD 2 - EA/PA disc 10/30/15
Served D 1/22/16
Divorced 5/25/16 (yes, that fast!)