Hi mbebos

Sorry you are here. I was told by a DB counselor that it is important to redevelop a friendship through positivity, but to stay away from all talks of relationship, present and past. To treat spouse as a good friend. No demands. (Can't say that is happening for me right now, but that was the advise). No pressure. Bringing up any relationship talk always backfires.

Unless spouse is involved in an active affair. Then advice seems to be different.

Your goals regarding health and fitness are great. Keep doing things that are good for you and will improve your confidence.

I really think that no matter what you do, cleaning, buying presents etc. spouse won't want you back until they fear you are gone. They can sense when you are truly detached.


Me: 42
H: 43
Twins age 5
Physically Separated 7/2015