Following on previous post. When is it time to give up and accept things won't change. Is being her friend a better way to go? At least I get to see her and it could make her relationship with S better. If I spend breakfast, New Year etc with her would that better than saying no to all her suggestions and looking like I am childishly avoiding her. How is my seeing her or not going to affect her relationship with OM? She has made the decision to be with him and I'm not going to change that by going to a breakfast or not. If I've almost disappeared she hasn't got the opportunity to remind herself of my good points. She didn't leave angrily, she said I was the best person she had ever known but she couldn't help the feelings she had. Her psychologist said years ago it was an obsession. How do you fight against that? Is avoiding her so much the best way to go? If I gave her the way back into S and my lives she'd take it happily. It is what she really wants. Or is my near silence the best way to go? Should I hold my nerve?