Thanks for the input. Yes I agree that both spouses need to be accountable for communicating their needs. W and I did not/do not have the skills to do so yet. This is definitely one area that I will work to improve upon for my benefit in the future R with her or anyone else, not just in a spouses to spouse R either but with anyone I interact with. We have both contributed to the sich we are in now, it just seems like she is a bit further along in detachment than I am. I believe she has had quite awhile to mourn/grieve the MR and I have had just the last two months. So far she seems almost relieved to be staying with MIL and not having the daily responsibilities of the kids/home. Kinda chaps my ass when I really think about it. I'm not sure she is feeling any loss so far.
M: 39 W:38 D: 11 S: 7 T: 18 M:13 I suspect problem: 8/15 ILYB: 9/15 Never quit on love I ask her to leave:10/15