Thanks Sotto - that is actually how I found this forum was by researching MLC- I lurked the MLC forum for months before signing on. I have read so much about MLC and I too think he is a classic case. He is getting very deep into lies and now some deviant behaviors (multiple partners-at same time- this was the cheating on OW with others - and lies and covering up about where he is etc) I am very worried about him. But finding all this out about him has helped me detach. I suffered so deeply for over a year feeling completely rejected. I knew it wasn't just about me from the start -because he virtually abandoned the kids - he rarely sees them - but now I am realizing this has very little to do with me and understanding why he can't face us - he is a "hot mess" as the kids say
