Spiff, I am going to reply, and then go back and read your thread so I might reply there too. Yes, I agree that when a waywards' statement gets debunked they go nuts. I was shocked at the things that came out of my H's mouth, and even still, most of the anger has settled down but he is still capable of some crazy statements.

In the last 2 months twice I "caught" H realizing that one of his earlier statements was completely proven to be false, and he got a really confused look on his face and got really quiet. Big improvement over 6-9 months ago when he would have flipped out and accused me of something really odd, like causing his mother's fibromyalgia. So he is coming out of it, but it has been extremely slow and painful and I do not trust him yet.

I will get to your thread. H just walked in the door, and I have a dinner group tonight, so if I don't get to you tonight I will tomorrow morning.

We also have MC tomorrow night and I am dreading it. Overall the sessions have been going better, but in the last session H seemed really agitated over the fact that I don't like biking. With the same intensity as if I didn't like sex, or something serious. Funny thing is, it has probably been a year since H got on his bike, so wtf is he even talking about? And even then, he has a couple of guy friends who he used to bike with, can't that be his guy thing?

Thank you for visiting my thread. I will be heading over to yours.