Thanks for thinking of me V, whenever your ready I'm game.
JellyB, thank you for sharing your thoughts about my experience. I am happy to continue until you've got me figured out.
"Has there ever been a time when Mutatio put himself first?"
I have never put myself first against what the family needed. When the family had a need, I would do it in a way I preferred. But me before the family's needs, no.
"When was the last time you experienced yourself as a good person, a good father, a good husband without guilt and shame?"
The first three years of my marriage, about 23 years ago.
"I guess I raise them as I feel that at times you are still fully immersed in being the good dutiful husband and father. If you could just show wife, how sorry you are, how good you are that it would change everything. Maybe this is true."
Not true, I think it would change nothing.
"Your wife has experienced you as the dutiful husband - he was a drinker and angry, she has experienced you as the guilt ridden, dependent, placatory and anticipatory husband"
I agree.
Your good JellyB, you have me figured out. I will put myself first sometimes but each member of a family should have that experience. The evening classes I take now are for me and I don't miss them.
