Vise82 - The same for me. I wasnt a nice person in the years before the first BD in 2012 and it took all my strength and the DBing techniques to turn the ship around in 2012. I grew as a person, I GAL. After 6 months W accepted me back , but I had only fixed me to become a better person - WE hadnt fixed the MR. That was in hindsight a major disaster

Things were good (at least in my eyes) for 18months or so and then went slowly downhill with W withdrawing and me burying my head in the sand like everything was ok.

I didnt go back on the changes I had made of myself so for W to work out on our MR this time is harder. But I have less to fix of myself.

I can still grow as a person to have greater self-esteem, confidence and be a better dad to the kids. But this time W seems to have checked out completely.

She is willing to wait until the New Year but then the next R talk will come around and she will ask me to leave the home. I will not do it and she will go straight to D - this is what I can see happening. Its like being on Death Row.

All I can do is concentrate on me and the kids. The kids know nothing and will be devastated more so if I am even closer to them. Its the only thing keeping me and W together otherwise she would have walked away.

Me49 W45
T15 M13
S11 S8
BD 11/15/11 & 3/27/12
Moved out 4/9/12 Moved back 4/23/12
W working on US 5/20/12 Now Piecing!
May-Oct14 drifting
Dec 14 W agrees to more QT
BD Oct15 ILYBINILWY
W filed 1/25/16