I have finally stepped up

[PigPen]

Angel are you reading any other threads on here? I would recommend that if you aren't.

Read the advice other people are getting from the vets and see if there's a common thread you can apply to your own situation. Not the specifics, but themes.

"I don't believe in divorce, but I won't stand in your way" would have sufficed. Ask yourself why you felt the need to tell her that she's treating you like a disposable object and throwing you in the trash. Why did you need to tell her you don't trust her? Why did you need to tell her she took your girls away for 7 weeks?

Why do you care if we think you're being uncivilized?

Can you see through some of this? Even in your posts it looks like you're asking us for to validate what you've done.

There is a theme to the advice you're getting on here. Focus on you. Stop focusing on your W. Every time you post about her and what she's done to you, we know you're still stuck in the same place despite how much change you say you've made.

This is a LONG process Angel. LONG. Months if not years. No one makes change as quickly as you think you have. I didn't, nor has anyone else on here. We might think we have, and we might have made the start of change, but change takes time, and then it takes tests, and then it takes more time.

When you get to the place where you WANT to say to her "I don't believe in divorce but I won't stand in your way" and that's ALL you want to say to her because you know the rest is just projection, manipulation, and other garbage, then you've started to make real change.