Take YOUR time Z, sometimes we are obsessed with what we should do that we put unnecessary additional pressure on ourselves.I too feel that but in reality I know that if I decided tomorrow or next week or later, that is OK too.

It is not easy to know what to do. Sometimes it is not eveneeasy to know what we want.

I too believe that my W does not see any harm in her friendship. I will keep an eye on it and act where I see inappropriate behavior.But for me the issue is not this friendship but that my W has checked out. Is his presence affecting that.surely.

I am considering following the advice given by sandi for WW.I am already distancing. Maybe our Ws do need to see they could also be losing us. I think that has to be something they realize as opposed to telling them.

Concentrate on you and kids.GAL without W. I know it is not easy to put aside deciding such things especially when we live a half marriage.
Take your time and give her time.

It is strange we both seem to be exactly at the same point more or less. I am sorry for you but I am glad of the company.

And lastly you know as well as I do that you will not die on this hill.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together