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Originally Posted By: angel r
i made the big mistake by snooping to her facebook.

The 37 rules are there for you to avoid this kind of pain. Had you not snooped, you wouldnt have known anything of this. All that it does is hurt you.

Keep your focus on your, angel. She is going to do whatever she wants right now.

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Angel, she is probably distracting herself. If she wanted the ex-BF, she would have been with him and not married to and had children with you. She just wants to talk to someone who is supportive and who she can present only her side of the story to.

Are you focusing on how to get access to your children?


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You guys are spot on. Azzork yes i should have avoided that , now I just caused myself pain. I just my tongue on purpose. And painter , yes she is looking for someone to express herself. But why her ex, when i have caught her in the past and told her that was disrespectful to reach out to him. She was sorry about it in the past. I guess she never really did respect me as her husband. I already called the Attorney general in order to place myself in child support , just waiting on process so we can decided visitation rights. Waiting patiently and praying allot !


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Do you have a L to look out for your interests when it comes to the children? The AG has no interest in your visitation, support and visitation are not connected legally. All the AG wants, is to make sure children are supported.

If you call the AG, there's no reason why you shouldn't call a L.


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well she just txt me back after 4 weeks, and it has to be worst txt she has ever told me . I dont even know what to reply. I am so heart broken.

" I am ready to talk via txt messages only. I was not ready before because you have to realize I had to get my life together after depending on you. I would appreciate it first and foremost if you have people from church or anyone else stop calling me. I already have enough with your harassment. Second I need you to understand and accept there is no return and this relationship is over so please stop harrasing me with your godly emails, messages ,etc I am willing to have this divorce go smoothly but for that you have to let this go and accept and we can both save us lawyer fees. If you are not willing to then we both know the course this is going to take. But in my mind Im not trying to screw you over Im not trying to take the girls away from you but first you need to LET ME GO and show me you are seeking the best interest for the girls bec ause so far youve been all about ME. As well as the fact that youve admitted theres a lot you have to work"


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anyone ? just feeling pretty devastated. This marriage is slipping out of my hands. Why didnt i try harder !!!!!!!


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Hi angel r. From the text your W sent it sounds like maybe you pushed too hard. She mentions she feels harassed so for her you pushed too hard. It also sounds like you have some support through church friends so maybe for now ou need to stop pursuing her and let your friends help you. Has your wife filed for divorce? If not then take a breath, focus on you, focus on your relationship with God, let your church friends help you and go dark with your wife. I don't know the details of your kids? Has your wife taken them away? Do you get to see them?


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Jpeg, yes i have a big support group from church that help in couple counseling. They tried reaching out to her talk to her about God. I guess that back fired on me. My wife has not filed for divorce yet , but in that text she clearly wants one. But wants to go the easy way , where we just sign and final. If i disagree then most likely lawyers will get involved. I havent seen my daughters in over 4 weeks. She just now txt me for the first time, which was one mean txt.


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Angel r I was suggesting you use your church support for YOU right now, let them help you with what you are going through right now. I know how this feels, it is like a living death. Do not let your wife use the kids as a way to get a quick settlement. You have rights with respect to seeing them so you need to educate yourself about that and then inform your W ( in a very non threatening non harassing way)
My H wanted me to agree to a quick no lawyer dissolution to our marriage 7 months ago. I didn't and we still do not have anything legal in place. I have had to retain a lawyer because he is not paying his share of expenses and not supporting the kids. But it took me 13 months to get to this place.
I still have hope but I have to protect myself and the kids financially.
I think the number one priority for you is you HAVE to see your kids So any communication to W should only be about your girls


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Originally Posted By: angel r
She just now txt me for the first time, which was one mean txt.

Im not sure I follow. It doesnt sound that mean to me. Let's look.

" I am ready to talk via txt messages only. I was not ready before because you have to realize I had to get my life together after depending on you.
This seems like progress from the hiding and the no communication, right?

I would appreciate it first and foremost if you have people from church or anyone else stop calling me. I already have enough with your harassment.
So between your messages, your following her, and messages from who knows how many well-wishing church-goers (that are likely not terribly nice to her in their messages), she is feeling smothered and harassed. She's looking for space and not getting it.

Second I need you to understand and accept there is no return and this relationship is over so please stop harrasing me with your godly emails, messages ,etc
As I said, she is looking for space. Why else would she leave. Every time you contact her about non-"business" things, it pushes her away.

I am willing to have this divorce go smoothly but for that you have to let this go and accept and we can both save us lawyer fees. If you are not willing to then we both know the course this is going to take. But in my mind Im not trying to screw you over
Some grains of truth here. You DO need to let her go. As for the "no lawyers" thing, you need to get her to the table and see her offer. She has withheld your kids for a month. Im not sure Id believe the words she is putting here.

Im not trying to take the girls away from you
But, right now she is controlling them 100%. Tough to believe this without any action to show otherwise.

but first you need to LET ME GO and show me you are seeking the best interest for the girls because so far youve been all about ME.
Is she on the boards? This is exactly what we have been telling you for a thread and a half.

As well as the fact that youve admitted theres a lot you have to work"
Meh. Yes. Do your work. But not sure it's impacted by her stuff.



So theres my thoughts. I dont see anything mean. I see her opening up communication as good. I dont see any difference from the words here and her actions to date. As for the lawyers, thats up to you; but she is still holding your kids 100%. So I'd figure out that arrangement concept with her ASAP - if theres some disagreement, then Id go to the L again.

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