Originally Posted By: RAI
Is my WW a victim/martyr? Am I victimizing her/martyring her? I just can't take it anymore.


Is this what you tell yourself?

If WW wants to be victim or martyr she will be, in spite of everything you do. Let her be who she wants, just simply disagree. So text message think to yourself "WW if that's what you want and need OK" "I don't agree WW, but you have the right to say so". I have a post on the abuse thread about this, and it's the stance recommendEd in 12 step.

I will find the link as a starter for you.

Faux victimhood

Breathe, smile, my lovely you have come such a long way from your days of screaming banshee back. As I see it, the fact that this is now texts is a great achievement. Congratulate yourself on protecting your children.

As for not taking it anymore, Really RAI!

There is a boundary in this being broken I suspect so..........

Oh in case you weren't told (although I suspect you were) it's your responsibility to ensure your laundry is managed amoung other 'leaving home and cutting the umbilical things.' Note I haven't said that you can't delegate or fair exchange on this. Even the best of help hasn't got xray vision my dear.

Can I recommend a practical book called Life Laundry for you to dip into? The laundry concept I believe comes via Tolstoy from his book Anna Karena, the character Count Vronski had a laundry day, mine used to be every Friday, I called it Friday jobs day before WH came along. Thinking about it, it was a good system and I had a once a month sort it weekend! Thanks for reminding me, it was a good system.


Last edited by Vanilla; 10/12/15 05:12 PM.

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