Re Thanksgiving. It was the kids who said to me they DO NOT want to even see him. So I was just going to have our own little dinner. But the kids still want to see their grandparents so I asked MIL if they would come. It was MIL who suggested inviting the rest of the family (his brother and family and his sisters family) She said she would NOT have it next day. Now I just got off phone with BIL and he is thinking he will invite his brother (H) for dinner on Sun. Either way H will not see his kids for thanksgiving