LOL, My wife suggested i go move in with my mother. They dont want there lives affected, but want this life changing event to happen. Crazy. They also want this and we dont, but they want us to do the work.

I was speaking to a friend yesterday that went through all of the same situations and now they are working through things to reconcile. I finally asked him after he tells me that is wife says my W is doing the same things she did. I asked him if he minded if i speak with her to get her view of things. He was stunned and said, I never thought of that. we are being so rational about everything and they are not rational. You need to relate to crazy and start thinking crazy.

The church though has helped so much, i am working on trying to get the kids more excited about it. Maybe that will help her along as well.

M 37
W 34

T 12
M 8
D 7
S 4

Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
W moved out 11/1/15