Rd, if your wife is annoying you by recanting the same lines over and over again to the point where it is annoying you, don't ignore her calls, tell her (she won't understand the reason you aren't answering is because she says the same things, she'll make up some other reason in her head). You don't have to shout it just say firmly and evenly that you don't want to hear that stuff anymore. Validating seems to be interpreted by some as just sucking everything up and saying "there, there it'll all be fine dear, just trample all over me and I'll be fine, don't worry about me..." simper, simper.

Maybe what some W's need is to see a bit of masculine backbone so they can grow some respect for their H. I am not talking about men strutting around expecting women to confirm to their every wish, but some strong leadership and direction is, I am led to believe and rapidly realising in a few experiments I've tried recently, something that draws women to a degree.

You strike me as a man with direction and grit, is that something you've lost a bit of and is part of your wife's lack of direction as she's nothing to anchor to anymore?

I'm on potentially dodgy ground here as it's quite new to me to think about it so consciously but I've realised I had become a bit of a push over and that it could of had some impact on the dynamics of my relationship with my W.

I'm trying to find something that's not all cave man and brutish, just a bit of grrrr, rather than too much automatic "yes dear".

Oh dear, I can feel the heckles of some to the female posters rising, I'd better stop, this is potentially dodgy ground and it's your thread not mine.

Enjoy the holiday, it'll be great fun regardless, because you are going to make it so. Pack a toothbrush for everyone and buy everything else out there, they do have shops you know. :-)


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