Thanks Judy. I'm hoping too. I always knew they were together but he continued to deny it. He didn't want to "be the bad guy". D is really good at expressing her feelings we talked some and now she is out with friends but texting for reassurance. Oldest is stunned and says he is "done" with his dad. I totally agree with the MLC diagnosis. He just doesn't see it He keeps insisting the kids are fine and he thought it was getting easier for them. (that's cause he never sees them so he wouldn't know). How are your kids doing!