I have not said a word because mainly my D7 wont open up about things( guess she gets that from both of us since we are in this situation) but i have been talking so much with her lately and she tells me these things instead of just getting angry. I must react differently than W. I would hate for her to feel she can not speak to me because i told W what she is saying. I think for now i am keeping to myself. the kids still have a good time with her and they love her, i just think they are witnessing things and making there minds about what they prefer. It really does hurt though. No matter what happens she is their mother and was always so loving. The past day or two i have noticed her showing them a little more affection. Maybe she is getting the hint.

a little update on the situation between us. I told her i committed to going on the trip, she had plans for this evening i knew about already. She decided to give me a bunch of details about everything even though i have not or will not aslk about anything she is doing. I just said ok and walked away. I know my mind reading comes in here, is she telling me these things to hide something, because she wants to see if i react, or she thinks i am interested? tomorrow should be interesting for her though, I am leaving very early before the kids get up and she will be left to do the entire morning routine. I return early Sunday morning and plan on taking kids back to amusement park as a surprise. all for now. Feeling ok today again, still find myself with an emptiness feeling inside through the day here and there.
I know i am doing so much to move forward through this, but i still love her so much and this is so out of my comfort zone to act differently.
thank you everyone for the help, I am going to check in on everyone now!


M 37
W 34

T 12
M 8
D 7
S 4

Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
W moved out 11/1/15