Thanks jenny, for me I am not settling for THIS. I am putting up with it and not easily at times. Why.. ..... because it is not me that wants out. I want this situation to end/change. I am trying that with little progress but no deterioration either. Just the longer it goes on the harder it is to hope/bear.

Advice varies, esp on internet, but many think that chances are better without separation. I believe this is also best for my kids.I also realise this may slow progress. It has taken a long time to get here, so it is normal that it can't change instantly. The flip side is that this limbo can go on for years and I believe that eventually I will have to let W know that this is nit how I want to live much longer. I have been trying to save our M since last Oct and believe it was a key cause of my depression before that. I am tired.

In the meantime I am trying to build a real life that will serve me later, esp if we split. Be prepared as they say in the boyscouts!

As for labels,i do feel like I am a LBS with a WAW.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together