Originally Posted By: rdken
Azzork is usually he||bent on driving home one theme: the majority of WAS's are already gone and it is a miracle to see ANY of these marriage restored.

I wouldnt classify myself as a vet here by any means, but in my opinion, it took until my W had BDed me, we had lived together for a month with me screwing up everything possible and separating before I was ready to admit that I needed help. So I assume everyone thats here is just as stubborn and foolish as I was. After making everything as terrible as I could on my own, I came here.

Maybe it was too late for my M, maybe not - dont know yet.

I do agree that the best course of action is often to just get out of the way. Its kinda like drowning in quicksand. Everything that you do will only make things worse.