Originally Posted By: Sorgan
The capable as a parent part I have proven to myself. My W naps every afternoon from when i get home til dinner(I guess all her late night phone calls with her BF/OM get to her) So I am alone with them all afternoon and do fine.

Not sure what you are doing with them....but I mean going out and getting things done - shopping, outings, etc.


Originally Posted By: Sorgan
My main trouble is after the kids go to bed, I wind up eventually pestering my W to try to spend some time together and it does nothing but piss her off most of the time.

[quote=Sorgan]I am afraid to go out and do things after they go to bed because I dont want to worsen things with my W. I can't leave well enough alone it seems most of the time. She has said she wants nothing at all to do with me ever again, that our bridge is destroyed and she has no interest in trying to buold a new one, and she never wants to see me again after the D. No one has filed yet though. I just am so fearful of losing her, but the reality is that I am probably going to.

Answer me honestly: how much WORSE can your situation get than what I marked in blue?

Originally Posted By: Sorgan
I don't know how most SOs are at this point. Especially WAWs(?) Not sure if she is that or what she is anymore. I have realized she isnt a WW though now. She is too into having a relationship with OM and shows no desire to want to R with me. She says that our M was over before OM.

Im not sure youre understanding correctly. By having OM, she is the definition of a WW...

Originally Posted By: Sorgan
I guess I need to grow a pair and actually get out of the house to see if that would help.

Its about doing what works. Its not about being a man. Its about finding a healthy way to deal with the pain you are going through so that you dont do things that you will regret later.