Thank you to all and goodbye to my W

[Zues126]

Mozza, you and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum here. I am not saying you're wrong for you, but I don't think there's a one size fits all approach.

I don't like the comment "you need to approach these guys and ask them if you can join".

I get that you were a nice guy, and that you've felt personal liberation and satisfaction by getting out of your comfort zone. But what works for you may not work for everyone else.

Personally the idea of splashing around in the dating field is such a turn off too me it makes me sick to think about. I am not confident around women and that's ok with me, because I don't want to score a lot and build confidence, I want to meet one woman that is willing to partner with one man. And while this may seem old fashioned, I hope there is one woman out there that also wants to preserve some type of sanctity of the male-female intimate relationship.

I applaud your willingness to take on personal growth, and I support you sharing your path with others as a story of what worked. I just don't like the idea that it's Mozza2.0's way or you're walking down a nice guy path that will be doomed.

Not all of my frustration is because of your thread. I am in general frustrated with the idea that we all have to go on this personal growth journey and upon completion we will have transcended our vices, compulsions, anxieties, etc, and be this new super race that is ready for a highly developed mature super-relationship that will be oh so fulfilling.

Trust me, I have grown a lot, and I think this is what DB is all about, and I love the path...but I am and never will be perfect, and I am not going to stamp out all of my fears, insecurities, and quirks. Someone is going to have to love me defective as I am, and the first person that has to is ME. The idea that I need to be some other way is my biggest hill to climb, I have worked very hard to learn to accept my flawed self, and the story that I have to be someone I'm not before I'll be able to live my life doesn't fit for me.

For thousands of years couples have stayed together when there were problems. I think the idea that we should eliminate all problems is not as healthy as the idea that we should stay together and navigate through our problems as a couple instead of bailing because our partners didn't upgrade to the latest software package 11.0 version of themselves.

Mozza, I'm not putting words into your mouth because much of this didn't apply to anything you said, I am just expressing why I'm so passionate about this topic.

You are the man though.