Thank you as it is. So, if tonight goes badly and he chooses to maintain a R with the OW, its fair to "out" her to her husband and employer, and then I should immediately jump into bed with my old college friend (would have to be really drunk for that one) , is that what I hear you saying between the lines? Because that is what I am hearing.

LOL. I just want to point out here that 3 months ago I wouldn't have been able to joke about any of this!

I am not going to make this an ultimatum because I hate to admit but I already made that ultimatum in May and he is still talking to her. But ....and I know I sound really gullible here......I really don't think H "gets" it, I think this is more of a reflection this time around of his incredible stupidity with regards to relationships and an incredible lack of sensitivity to the issue. But, yes, there was a direct lie in there too, so maybe I am kidding myself. I want him to hear me out and accept that his actions or lack of actions have consequences and affect other people's lives. Right now the consequence is hurting me, and losing my respect and desire to work on the R. How do I say that though without sounding confrontative? I need to work on that one.

Usually after MC I grab a bottle of wine and either find a friend or I sit behind the tennis courts in my neighborhood and drink until I feel better.