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LoisB #2595486 08/07/15 05:51 PM
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Heather,
Has he ever said how he's basing he dollar value of the tools? Is he basing it on brand new tools? If so, his tools were used and I don't think he could actually get the "new" price for them.

As for the names of the people that have them, etc. That's not going to cut it. He wants the dollar value and from where I'm sitting, and I could be wrong, he isn't looking to go on a tool search for them. How much of a difference is he asking between regular support and settling up with the tools?

If I were you, I'd settle this tool issue and move on. If you don't, you'll still be right where you are this time next year arguing over tool prices.


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Tools again? head on desk

That is a smoke and mirrors move right there. Really?!

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A stackable craftsman cabinet. One stacked on another one on wheels. About 15 years old.

Most to all of the tools inside were tools which came with the house. My grandmother owned the property and the old guy who lived there collected stuff... lots of tools.

There were two boat motors which I lent to our neighbors. Told Matt and told him, several times, to contact to get them back.

He had a grinder which I bought him for Christmas about 10 years ago.

IDK. He makes me so dammm tired.

I told D21 that she was welcome to come with me if she wants a chance to tell the judge her feelings.

D12 said the wisest thing... She said, "Mom, it's bad enough we have to go to this thing... but, I don't want everyone in Ohio to make us feel worse."

Insightful kid. I need to keep my PMA at an all time high here and push away the negative.

God's grace has gotten us this far.

Did I mention I have a job interview on Monday afternoon over the phone for a reporter job around Asheville?????!!!!

Told my mom and she said in her panicked voice, "How much less money???"

Then, it occurred to me... none of your GD business.


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LoisB #2595562 08/07/15 09:09 PM
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You do realize that he's trying to wear you down so that you will say "enough already" and sign the documents? Well, if your grandmother owned the home and the old guy who lived there collected the stuff, he can't claim those as needing to be replaced. Technically, they belong to your side of the family.

As for the craftsman cabinet. Based on the age, it might be worth only half of what he's claiming. Depending upon the condition. As for the grinder, they can't be that expensive. Now the boat motors...that would be different story.

Do yourself a favor and go out on Craig's List and see what some of that stuff is going for today. Make copies of those ads and then have them ready to present because those items are "used" and no longer have the same dollar value as to when they were new.

Seriously, if I had this problem, I would call those people up who have the boat motors and advise them when you are coming to town and that you will be arranging to have them picked up. I would pick them up and drop them off at his truck at the court house and I would make sure to get photos to show that he got them. What is he going to do w/boat motors living in an apartment? Wouldn't they be considered marital property if they were purchased when you two were married? If that's the case, you keep one and either get the other one and/or pay him the used motor. That would be dividing marital property down the middle.

I could fix this man's wagon very quickly if he were giving me the blues like he's giving you. He wants boat motors, oh, I could definitely give him boat motors and used tools, etc., prices for sure.

As for your mother, consider the source and don't tell her your business when it comes to your salary. Is she paying your expenses? No, then don't share. She doesn't need any additional fodder to talk about concerning you.

Get cracking on the used tool listing and I bet you'll discover just what that stuff is worth and it won't be what he's claiming. You've got to start thinking like him in order to get this issue resolved. He's sly like a fox and all of that being nice, etc. a few weeks ago was to soften you up and throw you thru a loop once again.


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Thank you Job. You make me smile.

Ya know who is a giant tool?

Matt Berry


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Heather,
I think you know me well enough that I could give him the blues over that whining about tools. You have to nip this in the bud and the only way to do so is to do your homework and when you have some prices, then say, Matt, here's what a used grinder, comparable to what I purchased you 10 years ago is going for.

Tools that are over a couple of years old, have been left sitting in sheds for a period of time, aren't worth as much as slightly used or new ones. Also, if they were sold at yard sale, you certainly wouldn't get full price for older tools like those he's whining about. He needs to get real about this staff and besides, if they had really mattered to him at all, he would have taken them years ago. Heck, you could have charged him a storage fee if you really want to split hairs over this stuff.

Trust me, I would give him one boat motor and tell him the other one is yours and drop that sucker right at his truck and say here you go and walk away.

This man really makes my blood boil over such stuff. Really reminds me of some of the antics my xh tried to pull on me. They should know that we aren't stupid about such things.

BTW, I'm glad I could make you smile.


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D12 is really struggling with this trip back to Ohio. Upset stomach, headache... Again feeling forced to do something she isn't ready to do.

I feel so much anger today about everything my kids have been through. Need to smack a tennis ball hard.

Matt says there is nothing he can do which is bull. How can he not see he is making things worse with D12? My sense is they will try to get the judge to force her to see him. That this may be the aim of the whole hearing.


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Heather,
I'm sorry that things aren't going as planned for you and your daughter, but it may very well be that the "court" wants to hear what she has to say about the situation. She's old enough now for them to hear what she has to say and then go from there. I know it's difficult for her and I do wish that there was something that can be done...but Matt may not have any say once it's in the court's hands.

To put a little positive spin on returning to Ohio, at least she'll be able to see some of her friends if you plan to stay for a day or so. Hopefully this will help her.

I did go out on Craig's List and found a used Craftsman tool cabinet on wheels (two levels) and it was being sold for $250 and it was used. I think this may have been about the size of the one he's whining about. Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see what a good used one was going for in my area and that's what I came up with.

I am praying that you can finally put this divorce to rest very soon. It's been a draining time for you and your daughters and it's taken a toll on all of you.


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Thank you Job ;-)

Have a job interview tomorrow.

This cord needs cut. I have a sense that things will turn around once it's done... If nothing else than to relieve one thing from my plate.


"You know, it's times like these when I realize what a superhero I am." Tony Stark/Iron Man

“Focus on what you can do, then do it with all your heart.” Lois Wilson
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Yes, I agree, this cord needs to be cut and very soon. It's time for you and your daughters to move on w/your lives. This is no way to live w/never knowing when he's going to pop up and want something from you. At least w/a divorce, you will no longer have to be sitting there on pins and needles wondering when the next court hearing is, what paperwork you'll need to complete, etc. (and his constant whining about tools).

Heather, life will be so much better for you and your little family once it's done.

Good luck with the interview tomorrow. Be honest and upfront, ask questions and do not accept something just because it's the first interview.


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The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
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