I'm so sorry DBB. I understand the fixable thing because it is, but your right you can't make something work when only one wants it. I wish you would stay in the bb because there is just as much a need to talk when divorcing then there is when your trying to save it. Thats why I stay, I know I will join you with the spouse filing soon, I've accepted it, I don't like it, I don't want it but it is helpful to have somebody to talk to about it. I don't read the success stories anymore, I'm happy for them but it doesn't help me. I hope you reconsider because it's better for you to talk, it's always helped me knowing that your there and I'll be there for you. Take Care Friend, I do hope to hear from you again. stacie