Bwriter, Your right, you are right in the mist of turmoil since the W moved out two weeks ago. I can try to explain things from my perspective as a W that left her H four yrs ago. I thought I wanted something more, there was internet sites my H couldn't live w/out and I felt he didn't love me so I left. Your W may have a different outlook on things now that she has left. I think you are doing great holding yourself together and you still have hope, I know you do. I understand what your saying there were no severe problems in our M, the last two years especially had been really good, even w/everything going on I still make excuses to see him, my downfall is talking to much about R like I did tonight. I think I found DB to late he is pretty hooked on OW and lives with her except when he has the kids. The only hope I have, which isn't much is he can't say the words "I want a divorce", he skirts around it.."yes will proceed with the paperwork in a couple weeks". I know it's not much and my heart is starting to accept this could very well be over and some how I have to find a way to be ok with this. The question I have is how do you turn off twenty years and so many memories, hopes and dreams? I just don't know. Take care, write again, stacie