Sandy, I sort of get your point, but now I think I'm confused about where to go from here. Are you saying that the usual DB techniques don't apply in this situation? I've been working on hard on GAL and identifying my part in the breakdown of the M, and then taking steps to correct my own issues. I still think that those are critical for me and my boys regardless.

But in terms of best way to interact with WW, what are you suggesting? In an effort to answer your questions, let me say the following are things that I will not tolerate from other people:
1) Dishonesty
2) Disrespect
3) Selfishness
4) Actions taken to hurt me or my children

I would say the same things apply to my M. Funny, as I look at that list, WW has done every one of those.

As far as things I cannot live without:
1) My children and their well-being
2) My integrity
3) Self respect

So given all of that, what's the best way to proceed? Continue with min contact about the kids, but shut WW down on any other topics? I had already committed to NOT helping her financially any more w/o a court order. It sounds like I basically need to cut her out of my life, outside of basic min interaction required for dealing with issues regarding the children? If I'm reading you wrong, please correct me. I'm really struggling knowing how to proceed. Are there any success stories here on the site where someone came out of a similar sitch and was able to restore the M? I would love to read them and maybe get some ideas.


Me 47 W 42
T 24 yrs M 18 yrs
W living with OM
BD1: 3/7/2015 (A with OM#1)
BD2: 4/11/2015 (A with OM#2, W moves out)
WW filed for D, papers received 9/18/2015.
Meeting to determine child custody 9/29/2015.