Thanks Z I hear you. I'll think on the physical contact, but I wasn't on about anything sexual. And I won't be doing it for any return. Plus and this could be wishful thinking but I have the impression she wants me to touch. This is based on how she positions herself. I'll ease into thus and will judge it.

You are surely right about years of unmet needs. So that will take time to overcome.


I want her as a friend. I want her as an advisor. I want her as someone who confides in me and I can confide in. I want to do stuff with her. I want to make her happy. I want to rear our boys together. I want to meet her emotional needs. And yes I want her physically. So I want everything and nit just physical. Sex although important, I value many other things more now.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together