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I just saw that he messaged her on FB that he still wants to be with her. So, you're right, not really in the right place yet. It's so hard to tell.
He seems to be flailing about looking for hope/help/love


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Originally Posted By: kyrie
I just saw that he messaged her on FB that he still wants to be with her. So, you're right, not really in the right place yet. It's so hard to tell.
He seems to be flailing about looking for hope/help/love


That's why the rule is believe none of what they say and only half of what they do, right?

So if he's flailing around, why do you want to grab on? Let him go. Once he's more stable, then you're going to be able to have much more meaningful discussion.


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Originally Posted By: kyrie
I guess I'm thinking in terms of "us". Or either.
To get us out of limbo either way.

REALITY - right now their is NO - us.

Bomb drop destroys that.

Sorry but if you read you will find that you must
face your BRUTAL REALITY


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In that flailing he is looking to me though... that's why this is confusing.


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Originally Posted By: kyrie
In that flailing he is looking to me though... that's why this is confusing.

No that is the OW's job not yours.


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Her job? Not her rightful job, that's for sure. She may take him back or she may tell him to go fly a kite.


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If you encountered the Tasmanian Devil, would you try to grab on?


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lol, I hear you. I guess I don't always see the Taz...I still see the man I've known for 12+ years - and he sounded like it when he tried to communicate. But I know he's an "alien" during this.

I still don't understand Cadet's note about her job.


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I don't want to speak for Cadet. But my understanding is that she can't stop his flailing around either. So you stand back, let that "relationship" implode, all the while, you are taking care of "kyrie". Only then can he realize what he's missing out on. That's when you can start to dictate terms. If you try now, he will just keep spinning.


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Things are imploding... at least on the OW's part. But, he may try to cojole/manipulate her back too. Dunno.
Plus, he keeps trying to communicate with me... that's why its confusing.


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