Sandi, I agree with you. Some of that applies to WHs too.

One thing I am sure is that posters often tell their coaches extra info, and coaches may sense tone and affect more. They may also concern themselves with children and co parenting, so that may be a reason.

I try to reconcile the approaches and there are extra complications if there are systematic abuses. Many times its up to the LBS to reconcile approaches and T33 has other posters like Cali with grounded advice too. My concern is where it creates indecision so the poster is left confused and in doubt about the course to take. If the friendship route doesn't work (most likely) then it's another avenue closed and full blown WW understanding might even be easier for the male LBS with a WW. It introduces a delay though.

T33 has caught on to the Temp checking and is I would bet dealing with this eyes wide, as we can see from the kissing post above. I suspect more scales will fall.

Sandi thank you for being you, I light my votive for your H and D every day. ((((Hugs))))

V

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.
V 64, WAW