hold on! - 11

[u-turn]

Jelly - thank you for sharing that - but you see it/acknowledge it/can possibly do something about it. That's growth. I guess we are all learning a lot about ourselves (silver lining).

In fear of being offensive again (you gave me the go ahead Jelly). I really thought this is probably just how all women are and something that 1. men just have learn to deal with in their private home life or 2. men push themselves away to spend all of their time in their man cave - isolating themselves from their W and family or 3. they leave - move on.

My group of male friends didn't talk about their home life, so my assumption was, their's must be just like mine. I was married and had kids before most of my friends and the only other model that I had was my brother's R with his xw (and that was almost always tumultuous - so shew, relief, I knew we were in better shape than them, so everything better than that must be normal and good). I didn't have any real relationship experience other that with W (high school dating only).

I chose to ignore the bad and try to constantly smooth things out - and apparently in the wrong ways.

Thank you for your kind words Jelly. (you must be feeling better to consider cycling - I've been trying to ride at least every other day, but the weather has been pretty bad - I'm kind of a fair weather rider right now and don't like riding in too much wind - excuses, excuses ).

cheers!