Mate. GB has just posted a GOLDEN message on Defacto's thread. Go read it.
Me:43 Her:42 M:14 S:9 EA started 2014/03 (or there abouts) PA started 2014/05/30 BD:2014/11/05 I left 2015/10/01 I returned 2015/05/02 She left 2015/06/10 OM still on the go.
Yea, me too. This is what's been killing me for a while. I really want to tell her how I feel, but thought it was against the rules.
Me:43 Her:42 M:14 S:9 EA started 2014/03 (or there abouts) PA started 2014/05/30 BD:2014/11/05 I left 2015/10/01 I returned 2015/05/02 She left 2015/06/10 OM still on the go.
Yeah, I thought that was persuing? Isn't that what begging and pleading was about? Anyway, my W knows what I think and it doesn't appear to have done me any good so far, so I don't know if repeating it is gonna cut the mustard.
M 45 W 52 SD22 S9 D8 BD 6 April 2015 Not living together 4 Dec 2015
I know, right? I think the point he makes isn't pursuing, just letting her know how you feel and it's not all about her. This has been bugging me for a while now. Let's see his followup. He's put up more and I've responded. I don't think my WW does know how I feel right now.
Will post more later.
Me:43 Her:42 M:14 S:9 EA started 2014/03 (or there abouts) PA started 2014/05/30 BD:2014/11/05 I left 2015/10/01 I returned 2015/05/02 She left 2015/06/10 OM still on the go.
No, but how she could just dismiss it really gets on my goat. I made sure S9 did special things on Mother's Day.
So gently remind her that it's Fathers Day. And then YOU Create the best Father's Day you want to have. DO not expect her to do it.
This does 2 things 1) most importantly it creates a great day for YOU and your kids. You take control of your day and show that you are an adult who isn't waiting to be handed something. AND
2) it's also a day that your kids will remember well (and for sure they will tell your w about it, which is excellent).
No matter what your w says, every mother is touched by the loving interactions of her kids with their fathers. For most of us, it's a turn on emotionally.
Be the best dad you can be for them, b/c it's the right thing to do...and also, yes, there's a payoff beyond even them.
And stop snapping. That feeds right into her negative images of you. Don't fuel her fire.
And It reeks of having no self control. Women are attracted to strong men,
which means men who are in control of themselves - not trying to control others.
Make sense?
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
25. Yes. It makes sense and thank you once again for stopping by. I believe I've moved on quite a bit since that post. Yes, I wasn't happy that day. Venting then but I'm ok now. I appreciate you coming here. S9'and I are so having fun and bonding (as if we could be closer, but we are so that's a lesson for me).
Thanks again.
Me:43 Her:42 M:14 S:9 EA started 2014/03 (or there abouts) PA started 2014/05/30 BD:2014/11/05 I left 2015/10/01 I returned 2015/05/02 She left 2015/06/10 OM still on the go.
I don't think my WW does know how I feel right now.
Doesn't help that you lied to her upon moving back in:
Your email:
Originally Posted By: ndy
It may be worth you knowing why I have returned to my own home. I have no interest in you or in coming between you and your AP or even stopping you from being around him. I really don’t care anymore. I want to be in my own home because I believe your choices were wrong and I should have never left my S9 to start with. You said last night that this situation we find ourselves in is bad for S9. Well, since I’ve been back he and I have laughed, talked, spent time together, played and done lots of activities and bonded more than I ever thought possible. So I disagree that having his D around isn’t good for him. Also, I only care about you in so far as I have to with regards to the fact that you are the M of my S9 and that he and I aren't the ones who should be suffering the consequences of your choices. I don’t mean to sound heartless, just being honest. So I will show you the respect that the M of my S9 deserves but I have no other feelings for you other than disappointment. I’m sure you think even less of me, and that’s ok.
Not lecturing you. She was probably happy about this email and information. It might have actually smoothed the transition back into the house for you. If you had told her then you maybe still hoped to reconcile she'd have been even nastier because the last thing she want is to feel guilty every time she looks at you.
I've only breezed through your thread. You are way down the road from my experience being able to help you much. I certainly don't think the letter I posted and going dark is going to help you one bit at all. Your choices remain either detach and keep your distance and wait for the affair to die it's natural death (while I can't stand limbo you HAVE seen a little progress...every day she's nicer to you, she's seeing you spend time and develop your relationship with your son and just being around you restores a connection to you) or attack and try to undermine the affair. You said you could bother OM and he'd maybe slither away then consider doing it. Marriages can't recover while there is an active affair so being nice to her isn't going to move up the timeline. OM might be beside himself right now that you've moved back in and she is seemingly dragging her feet on filing for a divorce and moving anything forward towards being with him. It might be the perfect opportunity to strike. It'll make her FURIOUS. No addict likes it when you mess with their crackpipe. Her rage will know no bounds but getting the OM to dump your wife and move on to less complicated women is certainly a strategy for saving your marriage. It matters not HOW it ends...only THAT it ends.
Personally, I see you are almost a year into this. Changing your strategy drastically at this point is risky. Maybe not messing with OM but just being nice to her and interfering with the affair by simply being a little more cocksure and confident about yourself (and the fact that you are her true soulmate) could not only be attractive but also drive OM a bit bonkers. He's surely got to be suspicious. He KNOWS all about your wife's ability to lie because he saw her lie to you for so long. Surely she'd lie to him as well about why you've moved back home and what that means to their relationship. If you could do this in an detached manner without expectations it might help but realize (just as you realized when you moved back in) that you are presuming the risk that this won't all work out at all and it'll just add up to wasted time that you could have used getting on with your own life. Most of the men I've helped have been ok with this risk. The satisfaction of knowing they did all they could to save their family was worth it. But you've already spent nearly a year....so maybe set a deadline up front where the finish line FOR YOU is. First day of Autumn (equinox), Guy Fawkes Day, Christmas, the New Year at which time if things having changed that perhaps YOU would consider filing and commencing the divorce process yourself.
Rarely do affairs last more than 2 years. You're already a year into this. Keep detaching and db'ing. If you are kind to her it's not because you are desperate. It's because you know a secret she doesn't know. That you are better than OM. That her relationship with OM is doomed. That's she's coming back whether she wants to or not because you're the catch and you're God's perfect gift for her.
In the alternative, can you fight for and win primary custody in the UK? Seems you'd be the more fit parent for S9. IF she ends up filing on you....consider seeking primary custody. Seeking the undertaking alone sometimes snaps them to attention a bit. Then again, maybe Bob's your uncle and he can do a thing or two about OM or winning primary custody.
Sorry I don't have more. Can't follow multiple situations here. Just don't have the time. Today was an odd day where I was stuck watching over things with nothing to do but this.
Que Sera Sera.
The internet is 90% complaining and entitlement and I hate it because I deserve better!
Well, I think I'm going to write a letter. It's gonna be mainly about the kids, but I'll have a look at GB's letter as well. What have I got to lose?
Nothing. I've just posted on your thread.
Me:43 Her:42 M:14 S:9 EA started 2014/03 (or there abouts) PA started 2014/05/30 BD:2014/11/05 I left 2015/10/01 I returned 2015/05/02 She left 2015/06/10 OM still on the go.
