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Also I swear Saudi or others have said you can't go dark when you live in the same house can only do lrt. Which would make sense if going dark was no contact. Also my last db coach meeting was about lrt and it included contact.


During the time I was reading DR, I read some other books that were very similar to MWD's writing, and they even used the same acronyms, so I would have to go look up page numbers, etc., which I can't do at the moment. So anyway, the way I remember it from way back then, was that "Going Dark" was when you were totally cut off and away from the WAS/WS. Nothing heard from you and nothing seen of you. It is as if you fell off the planet. No contacts whatsoever! That is why my argument has always been that if you share children, it is almost impossible to stay dark long enough to be effective in the hopes of reconciliation. If you live under the same roof.....it is impossible! How can you not be seen or heard and living in the same house? I believe MWD referred to "Going Dark" as the technique after the LRT. She may not have been the one to actually coin the term "Going Dark"(I will have to double check) however, her description of "After the LRT" is the same as going dark.

I guess we get tied down in some of the terms, IDK. I remember when some new people who were confused about going dark, and could not stick with it (b/c they would backslide), started referring to going gray. What!?! (Drove the mess out me! Still does!) In other words, it was a compromise of going dark....which isn't worth a flip. I thought that was crazy, was not an appropriate term. They just made it up b/c they couldn't stick to anything, and was inventing a new.....whatever. mad It caused confusion for other newcomers, too, and I still see it popping up from time to time.....but I hate that "going gray" is ever used, and I won't tell all my reasons right now.....maybe later.

I agree about dropping the rope as being the LRT. I use to post an analogy of playing tug of war and what happens when you drop the rope. It may be floating around in some old threads somewhere. If I happen to run across it, I'll send it your way.

The way I understand the LRT, it can be applied while still living under the same roof. I remember seeing a couple of people on the board (one was a mod) who argued whether or not the 37 rules were 180's or dropping the rope. grin So funny! I just sat back and watched the show. The important thing, Ripken, is to do what works for your situation. If you aren't sure about the acronym or term, then don't use one. Just give a description of whatever it is you are doing. Most of us here use it b/c it saves time, but there is confusion from time to time. And....if I'm wrong about any part, I am not to big to submit and admit.....(but it will hard). JK wink


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!